Boycott Loves & Pilot,& Flying J

Dec 09, 2018 at 09:21 PM CST
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I amazed at how many trucks buy fuel from these crooks. It makes me sick they are as much as 50 cents per gallon higher on diesel than competitors down the road. Don’t get me wrong,I am all for capitalism but not monopolies. What is worse is I know they give the big fleets a big break on their fuel only to gouge the owner operators. I encourage all small businesses to boycott these stores& if you have drivers provide them some incentive to buy fuel elsewhere& pay for their showers & coffee... Split the money they save, on a 200 gallon fill up, that is substantial. They sell gas for market price, most are below 2 bucks a gallon right now, they could do the same thing on diesel. Let’s send them a message.
Replied on Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 07:43 AM CST
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i have been doing this for years,even called my senator. Last friday bought fuel in Copan, OK north of Tulsa for 2.49/9, Tulsa Flying J was 2.86/9. Also bought at Wichita,KS. exit 13 on I-135,2.61/9, new Love's in McPherson,Ks 47 miles north was 2.96/9. No way I pull into a "major" truck stop for fuel.
Replied on Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 08:29 AM CST
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People Realize major truckstops don’t care about owner operators they only care about big company drivers
Replied on Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 04:13 PM CST
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i only get fuel there if i am getting close to pushing . i hate pushing the truck its hard to steer and lots of other technical issues while you are pushing. even then i will only crank 40 gal to get me somewhere else. I haven't fueled at a big stop for 11 months. what they are doing is totally illegal. The crooks have it rigged for the big companies and i kinda like the drivers that i interact with at my small joints. most are courteous and most would ask questions before beating you up. The atmosphere at the big joints is not for me.
Replied on Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 07:55 AM CST
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Nastc fuel card! It will pay for itself in 1 month .
Replied on Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 07:56 AM CST
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You don’t have to be a large fleet to get these discounts. I’m paying less than $2.50 a gallon. Check talkingtrucktires. com for my contact info.
Replied on Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 08:00 AM CST
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Yep I just fueled at The Grand Travel plaza in Oklahoma on the 40...2.48 a gallon cash or credit AND a free buffet...best buffet I've ever had. regular price 15 bux. While the mega stops are 3.08 a gallon and you don't even get a free hot dog.
Replied on Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 07:12 AM CST
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Honestly, and I say this with great compassion...The bigger truck stops could care less about the smaller companies and the owner operators.. It shows... I preach this alot and I'm quite sure my feelings are just from me waking up on the wrong side of the bed... Let's take this for example... Personally, I've been trucking for 19 years.. and just the showers alone were once JUST $5.00... withour fueling... Now, they're $13.00 for non fuelers... So, in essence, they're telling you, that in order to receive the perks and discounts that we offer, you have to purchase our fuel... at least 50 gallons... that is insane... When you take into consideration of how much water you use for a shower then $13.00 is no where near considerable. I agree it should cost something.. but NOT that much... Next, I live in Louisiana... I can fuel at mom and pop truckstops for an average of at least .20 less than the these bigger guys.. and they don't move near the amount of fuel that the bigger truckstops do... but they offer better pricing... Now, I am AWARE that you have negotiating power when you agree to purchase a certain amount of fuel per month.. but that only benefits the larger companies. I see this as a bullying tactic.. If you want to get the fuel for this price, then you have to buy this many gallons from me... So, while I do believe that boycotting works in certain instances, it won't work in this scenario... because people ARE getting the fuel cheaper... just NOT you nor I... we're just not BIG enough to negotiate in their eyes.. but hey!!!! that's the American way!!! in theory, the smaller guy needs the help but they don't see it like that.. they'd rather KNOW they have x number of companies coming in to fuel for x amount of PROJECTED profit each month... It's sad, but this is the world we live in...

So, what do I do? I fuel at the mom and pop stations when I'm in the area and when I need a shower, I stop and grab 50 gallons at one of the OTHER guys to aleviate spending $13.00 for some hot water... It's sad.. but what else can you do. If I had a fleet and had the buying power that the larger companies did then I could take advantage of their lower pricing schemes..

Replied on Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 12:04 PM CST
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Why bother getting fuel from these big box fuel stops. The only drivers there are wearing nitey pants and flip flops and yakking on their headset at the fuel desk. And nobody gives a free coffee anymore. I'm like I just spent how much and you can't give me a coffee? Go on trucker path and turn on the fuel price often the smaller more overlooked places are listed on there but not all of them.
Replied on Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 06:12 AM CST
Just yesterday I saw two places bet ft smith & ok city where Loves was 288 and across the street was 2.27. If the guy next door can buy it for that & make a profit, surely the big guys could too. That is ridiculous
Replied on Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 11:52 AM CST
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I just filled up at the TA Dayton location. Posted price $3.08 on the NASTC card I paid 2.21. Don't cry and whine if you don't use the tools avaliable .
Why does everyone expect something for nothing . You want free parking and coffee, oh showers also. Free enterprise is great for the owner operator, but not the other businesses . If anyone is paying full price at any of the stops neinh bashed that is thwir fault Get into a dicount card or program. If you think truckstops are getting rich sell your trucks and open a truck stop You may change your thinking.
Replied on Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:38 PM CST
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You may be able to find cheaper fuel ..but have you ever heard of Cetane? Same as octane but for diesel and there is no law making them publish the cetane rating..one company i hauled diesel for would pick up transit mix..( where the pipe line would separate the different products with a slug of water..and take x amount of product on each end of the water plug) and they would heat it up..evaporating the water..and the gasoline would rise and diesel at the lower end..( same way the refineries do it with crude oil) and would sell these two products...you can today buy this diesel for about a dime cheaper than the majors..but you wont get the best of mpg..or the gas..you can find it cheaper..but law makes them post the octane rating..of 85...so you will get a great deal.....but you can watch your gas gauge move towards empty.. so just how can that place down the street be so much cheaper?something has to give..one is smaller profit...another is buying your fuel in a city or county thats isnt robbing you with unkown to you of local taxes..example washoe county (reno sparks nevada ) has about 40 cents local taxes..or they buy cheaper cetaned diesel...you may think you are getting a better deal..you might be..or are you really?
Replied on Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:22 AM CST
Bought diesel 80 cents cheaper yes 80 cents cheaper at the grand casino travel stop in shawnee oklahoma then down the road at the majors. most of those little spots offer showers also. How about insteaead of using this platform to bitch about it we use it to spread the word of where the cheap fuel is at you come across cheaper fuel let the rest of us know about it. BTW @ 80 cents a gallon cheaper on 200 gallons of diesel i could pay for that over priced shower and still save a ton of money. Just Sayin.
Replied on Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:22 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JOHN BIGHAM
Quote: "I just filled up at the TA Dayton location. Posted price $3.08 on the NASTC card I paid 2.21. Don't cry and whine if you don't use the tools avaliable . Why does everyone expect something for nothing . You want free parking and coffee, oh showers also. Free enterprise is great for the owner operator, but not the other businesses . If anyone is paying full price at any of the stops neinh bashed that is thwir fault Get into a dicount card or program. If you think truckstops are getting rich sell your trucks and open a truck stop You may change your thinking. "

Understood. I simply don't like having to belong to a "club" in order to get the secret price. Whether it's fuel or groceries etc. Not complaining, justing saying.
Replied on Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:22 AM CST
When I was going to school for Diesel tech, we tested fuel quality at different places in Fargo and surrounding area...the big truck stops had lower quality by a significant margin. Flying j was worst. Petro next worst. I think stamart was best. Also, once you get into the middle of no where, some big places don't take certain fuel cards
Replied on Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:37 AM CST
Originally Posted by: DALE HERMANS
Quote: "When I was going to school for Diesel tech, we tested fuel quality at different places in Fargo and surrounding area...the big truck stops had lower quality by a significant margin. Flying j was worst. Petro next worst. I think stamart was best. Also, once you get into the middle of no where, some big places don't take certain fuel cards"

This was quite a few years ago.. but best fuel for mph was a truck stop just west of texas border on 10 in new mexico. .. i think it was the national truck stop..when i was hauling heavy haul.. flying j..loves..pilot was the least mph and power...TA and Petro was better..most of the time when a fuel truck picks up a load of diesel at the pipeline or refinery..it comes off the community rack..so unless someplace adds additives at the drop point..the diesel is the same...and then theres transit mix. And there who knows..